1 00:00:01,536 --> 00:00:04,476 [Josh Byerly] While the crew has been working this morning, 2 00:00:04,476 --> 00:00:07,716 activities have also been taking place down at the Kennedy Space Center. 3 00:00:07,716 --> 00:00:13,236 The Shuttle Carrier Aircraft, which is NASA's very large 747 jumbo jet 4 00:00:13,236 --> 00:00:16,106 that carries the space shuttle on its back, arrived down there 5 00:00:16,106 --> 00:00:21,196 at the Shuttle Landing Facility on the very same runway that Discovery landed on more 6 00:00:21,196 --> 00:00:25,796 than a year ago after it wrapped up its final mission STS-133. 7 00:00:26,216 --> 00:00:29,236 There is a live view of the Kennedy Space Center there at the Shuttle Landing Facility. 8 00:00:29,236 --> 00:00:36,246 The 747 will spend the next several days getting Discovery secured to it and ready for the flight 9 00:00:36,246 --> 00:00:41,876 up to Washington D.C. Discovery heading up to the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum. 10 00:00:41,876 --> 00:00:46,136 It will take off on April 17 and should arrive up in D.C. 11 00:00:47,046 --> 00:00:50,436 and be unveiled to the public there on the 19th. 12 00:00:50,436 --> 00:00:55,156 We have a chance now to talk to two of the crew members who will be flying that mission. 13 00:00:55,156 --> 00:00:57,246 This will be technically Discovery's last flight. 14 00:00:57,986 --> 00:01:01,376 We have Jeff Moultrie on the phone who is the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft pilot 15 00:01:01,376 --> 00:01:04,526 who will be flying that particular leg of the flight. 16 00:01:05,026 --> 00:01:09,616 We also have Henry Taylor who is a flight engineer for that particular aircraft. 17 00:01:09,616 --> 00:01:11,946 So good morning to both of you Jeff and Henry. 18 00:01:11,946 --> 00:01:13,426 How are you guys doing down there in Florida? 19 00:01:13,816 --> 00:01:15,206 [Jeff Moultrie] Hey good morning Josh how are you? 20 00:01:15,656 --> 00:01:16,596 [Henry Taylor] Good morning doing fine. 21 00:01:16,856 --> 00:01:17,426 [Josh] Doing well. 22 00:01:17,426 --> 00:01:21,666 So you guys flew in yesterday straight from Edwards Air Force Base in Dryden. 23 00:01:21,666 --> 00:01:23,176 How was the flight over to Florida? 24 00:01:24,496 --> 00:01:25,566 [Jeff] It was a good flight. 25 00:01:25,566 --> 00:01:30,846 It was a long flight for us about, I don't know, a little over about 5-and-a-half hours. 26 00:01:31,316 --> 00:01:34,756 So it was a nice flight, nice weather pretty much the whole way. 27 00:01:35,726 --> 00:01:37,906 [Josh] Could you actually make that flight in one hop? 28 00:01:37,906 --> 00:01:40,016 'Cause typically, you know, if you've got the shuttle in the back you guys have 29 00:01:40,016 --> 00:01:43,546 to stop a couple times because it's not exactly fuel-efficient. 30 00:01:43,546 --> 00:01:46,616 Could you actually make it in one pass or did you have to stop somewhere? 31 00:01:47,806 --> 00:01:50,366 [Henry] No we made it in one complete flight. 32 00:01:50,366 --> 00:01:59,166 We took off at 9:10 in the morning and landed here at 14:35 California time. 33 00:02:00,676 --> 00:02:02,166 [Josh] So talk about what's next for the plane. 34 00:02:02,166 --> 00:02:04,956 So talk about what you guys have to do over the next couple of days to get it ready 35 00:02:04,956 --> 00:02:08,216 and to get Discovery put up on the back of it. 36 00:02:08,476 --> 00:02:12,596 [Henry] Well today and the next day or so technicians 37 00:02:12,596 --> 00:02:16,586 at the Kennedy Space Center will be installing the balls and pedestals which is 38 00:02:17,586 --> 00:02:20,316 where the Discovery aft mounts will be. 39 00:02:20,656 --> 00:02:26,876 We'll also be putting fuel on the airplane, doing any other preparations that need 40 00:02:26,876 --> 00:02:29,036 to be done, inspections and things like that. 41 00:02:30,296 --> 00:02:35,226 [Josh] And then once Discovery gets put on there you guys will be good to go. 42 00:02:35,226 --> 00:02:39,426 Is there a, you know, talk a little bit about, you know, you guys have flown these, 43 00:02:39,646 --> 00:02:42,036 flown these types of jets for a while. 44 00:02:42,516 --> 00:02:46,526 Kind of talk to the layman about what is it like to actually have a shuttle that big 45 00:02:46,526 --> 00:02:49,616 and something on the back of that airplane and how different is it to take off and land 46 00:02:49,616 --> 00:02:52,226 with something that heavy on that 747. 47 00:02:53,396 --> 00:02:54,066 [Jeff] This is Jeff. 48 00:02:54,066 --> 00:02:59,776 I think the really, the parts of the flight that's quite a bit different is the take 49 00:02:59,776 --> 00:03:01,746 off portion. 50 00:03:01,746 --> 00:03:06,686 We use quite a bit of runway length with the mated SCA. 51 00:03:06,756 --> 00:03:13,676 The en route and descent landing portions are not so different than flying a, 52 00:03:13,676 --> 00:03:16,526 for example, a commercial airliner. 53 00:03:16,926 --> 00:03:25,096 But the take off due to the drag factor of the shuttle the performance is degraded. 54 00:03:25,096 --> 00:03:34,116 And so we have to be quite careful with our speeds and in the climb. 55 00:03:34,646 --> 00:03:39,186 But once we get to the in en route structure it's pretty much business as normal. 56 00:03:39,186 --> 00:03:40,436 It's like a normal jet. 57 00:03:40,436 --> 00:03:45,316 [Josh] So you guys are going to be doing a flyover of D.C. We've seen the news, 58 00:03:45,316 --> 00:03:48,816 that weather permitting you'll have the chance to flyover some of the landmarks, 59 00:03:48,816 --> 00:03:51,426 the National Mall and then head out to the airport. 60 00:03:51,796 --> 00:03:53,746 Have you guys ever done anything like that before? 61 00:03:53,746 --> 00:03:56,176 Is this sort of the first time you're going to be able to see some 62 00:03:56,176 --> 00:03:59,366 of these things from that vantage point? 63 00:03:59,366 --> 00:04:00,416 [Jeff] For me yes. 64 00:04:00,826 --> 00:04:04,536 We're doing the flyover first of the Kennedy Space Center and then we're going 65 00:04:04,876 --> 00:04:09,386 up the east coast to do the D.C. area flyover. 66 00:04:09,386 --> 00:04:15,166 Certainly it's going to be a first for me with a mated SCA. 67 00:04:15,166 --> 00:04:17,356 But I have of course flown in 68 00:04:17,356 --> 00:04:21,666 and out of Washington National before but never with the shuttle. 69 00:04:22,236 --> 00:04:27,496 But it's going to be a pretty historic flight I think and with our proximity to some 70 00:04:27,496 --> 00:04:30,666 of the monuments and the Capitol building and the White House. 71 00:04:30,666 --> 00:04:32,226 So it's going to be a pretty neat day. 72 00:04:32,226 --> 00:04:36,126 [Josh] And Henry you're the flight engineer and I think, correct me if I'm wrong, 73 00:04:36,126 --> 00:04:38,236 you're going to be flying a couple of different legs. 74 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:41,006 Up to D.C. and then on to New York correct? 75 00:04:41,056 --> 00:04:43,756 Talk about, about what you're going to be doing during those legs. 76 00:04:44,526 --> 00:04:51,526 [Henry] We're going to have just one leg from KSC to D.C. And then when Discovery's off-loaded 77 00:04:51,526 --> 00:04:55,856 and Enterprise is loaded it will be a different from Dulles to New York. 78 00:04:55,856 --> 00:05:02,356 We're going to be pretty heavy taking off from KSC so climb out would be slower 79 00:05:02,356 --> 00:05:05,356 than we would if we didn't have it. 80 00:05:05,576 --> 00:05:08,546 But the weight going from New York to, I'm sorry, 81 00:05:08,546 --> 00:05:11,786 from Dulles to New York is much lighter but it's still heavy. 82 00:05:12,206 --> 00:05:16,186 [Josh] How long have the both of you guys been flying this type of aircraft? 83 00:05:16,186 --> 00:05:17,326 How long have you been with NASA? 84 00:05:18,606 --> 00:05:19,206 [Henry] This is Henry. 85 00:05:19,206 --> 00:05:21,516 I've been with NASA since 1979. 86 00:05:21,646 --> 00:05:25,056 And I started flying on the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft in 1989. 87 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:32,516 I spent 30 years as a flight simulation engineer on the Shuttle Training Aircraft doing training 88 00:05:32,566 --> 00:05:35,146 of all the crews that have ever flown the shuttle. 89 00:05:35,146 --> 00:05:38,266 I also fly on the Super Guppy as flight engineer. 90 00:05:39,896 --> 00:05:41,096 [Josh] And Jeff. 91 00:05:41,306 --> 00:05:42,146 [Jeff] This is Jeff. 92 00:05:42,146 --> 00:05:46,576 That was, I was just a kid when Henry started. 93 00:05:47,716 --> 00:05:51,466 But I've been with NASA for 11 years. 94 00:05:51,536 --> 00:05:58,786 And I've been on the Shuttle Carrier since I got to Johnson Space Center in 2004. 95 00:05:59,246 --> 00:06:07,046 But prior to that I flew this airplane, type of airplane, commercially and then before that, 96 00:06:07,046 --> 00:06:12,596 many years before that, in the military. 97 00:06:12,596 --> 00:06:15,836 [Josh] So is this a bit of a different flight for you guys? 98 00:06:15,836 --> 00:06:19,526 Is there different emotions tied to this? 99 00:06:19,526 --> 00:06:20,996 [Henry] Oh yes. 100 00:06:21,436 --> 00:06:24,366 It's unique and special to do it. 101 00:06:24,366 --> 00:06:29,186 It's sad that it's the end of the road for, you know, the last flight of Discovery. 102 00:06:29,776 --> 00:06:34,816 What is going to be the most tough for me will be in September with Endeavour 'cause 103 00:06:34,816 --> 00:06:38,956 that will be the complete end of the last flights for the airplane. 104 00:06:40,436 --> 00:06:42,046 [Josh] So let's talk about the plane itself. 105 00:06:42,046 --> 00:06:43,806 This is a NASA 905. 106 00:06:43,806 --> 00:06:45,286 This is the original one right? 107 00:06:45,286 --> 00:06:46,936 This is the oldest of the two. 108 00:06:46,936 --> 00:06:50,846 We have another one that was NASA 911 that's been decommissioned correct? 109 00:06:51,626 --> 00:06:52,296 [Henry] That's correct. 110 00:06:52,296 --> 00:06:54,656 905 was the original SCA. 111 00:06:54,656 --> 00:06:58,836 It was used for the Approach and Landing Tests when Enterprise was flown off the back. 112 00:06:59,416 --> 00:07:04,756 It carried all the orbiters until the first trip that 911 made, which I was on, 113 00:07:04,756 --> 00:07:08,896 was carrying Endeavour from Palmdale to KSC. 114 00:07:11,156 --> 00:07:11,826 [Josh] That's amazing. 115 00:07:11,926 --> 00:07:12,896 That's amazing stuff. 116 00:07:12,896 --> 00:07:15,296 So I appreciate you guys joining us today. 117 00:07:15,296 --> 00:07:19,066 We'll definitely be watching you on the 17th whenever you guys take off. 118 00:07:19,066 --> 00:07:22,036 I think you're due to take off early, early in the morning, aren't you, from KSC? 119 00:07:22,976 --> 00:07:24,686 [Henry] 7 o'clock is our scheduled time. 120 00:07:25,496 --> 00:07:27,466 [Josh] Alright, well listen, you guys thanks again for joining us. 121 00:07:27,466 --> 00:07:29,606 You guys have a safe trip and again we'll be watching. 122 00:07:30,166 --> 00:07:30,636 [Jeff] Thanks Josh. 123 00:07:30,826 --> 00:07:31,326 [Henry] Thank you. 124 00:07:31,756 --> 00:07:36,856 [Josh] Once again that was Jeff Moultrie the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft pilot and Henry Taylor 125 00:07:36,856 --> 00:07:41,416 who is the flight engineer onboard that NASA aircraft that's going to be taking Discovery 126 00:07:41,916 --> 00:07:45,796 on its final flight from the Kennedy Space Center coming up on April 17 127 00:07:45,796 --> 00:07:51,596 up to Washington D.C. where it will be put on display for everybody to stop by and take a look